version=pmwiki-2.2.130 ordered=1 urlencoded=1 agent=w3m/0.5.3+git20210102 author=jrmu charset=UTF-8 csum= ctime=1644863049 host=38.87.162.8 name=Debate.Ircnowd rev=1 targets= text=(:title Why we need our own ircd:)%0a%0a!! Motivation%0a%0aWe want a chat platform that normal people can use without reading manuals. We don't want a social network for elitists, we want a social network for normal users.%0a%0aUnrealIRCd and InspIRCd do not solve spam problems intuitively. They use almost a hundred different flags to ban innocent users in almost a hundred different ways. IRCNow bouncers were only recently banned by some inexperienced Unreal opers. Just a few days ago, they gave us express permission to connect with an iline, then recently Z-lined our IPs by accident for being proxies.%0a%0aAccidental banning happens on a daily basis because UnrealIRCd is too confusing for average users to administer. Channel ops also struggle to be able to administer their own channels because of the needlessly complex settings.%0a%0aHere are some example flags that are highly confusing and of no use:%0a%0a[@%0aD chanmodes/delayjoin Delays someone's JOIN message until that person speaks. Chanops and higher, opers and ulines/services are exempt. Requires +o or higher %0aQ chanmodes/nokick No /KICK allowed. Can be used to force all chanops to use Services for kicking. Unusual, but possible. %0aV chanmodes/noinvite /INVITE is not permitted. %0a@]%0a time=1644863049 title=Why we need our own ircd author:1644863049=jrmu diff:1644863049:1644863049:=1,17d0%0a%3c (:title Why we need our own ircd:)%0a%3c %0a%3c !! Motivation%0a%3c %0a%3c We want a chat platform that normal people can use without reading manuals. We don't want a social network for elitists, we want a social network for normal users.%0a%3c %0a%3c UnrealIRCd and InspIRCd do not solve spam problems intuitively. They use almost a hundred different flags to ban innocent users in almost a hundred different ways. IRCNow bouncers were only recently banned by some inexperienced Unreal opers. Just a few days ago, they gave us express permission to connect with an iline, then recently Z-lined our IPs by accident for being proxies.%0a%3c %0a%3c Accidental banning happens on a daily basis because UnrealIRCd is too confusing for average users to administer. Channel ops also struggle to be able to administer their own channels because of the needlessly complex settings.%0a%3c %0a%3c Here are some example flags that are highly confusing and of no use:%0a%3c %0a%3c [@%0a%3c D chanmodes/delayjoin Delays someone's JOIN message until that person speaks. Chanops and higher, opers and ulines/services are exempt. Requires +o or higher %0a%3c Q chanmodes/nokick No /KICK allowed. Can be used to force all chanops to use Services for kicking. Unusual, but possible. %0a%3c V chanmodes/noinvite /INVITE is not permitted. %0a%3c @]%0a host:1644863049=38.87.162.8