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11 text=(:title Why Plan 9:)%0a%0aToday's Linux/BSD systems are heavily controlled by corporate%0ainterests. It is unlikely that these corporations will tolerate the%0aInter9's efforts to preserve user freedom on the Internet. Moreover,%0athe Inter9's users will be unable to make any significant impact or%0acontribution to existing projects. A new project is needed which is%0aspecifically chosen for the task of connecting together isolated%0anetworks.%0a%0aIn general, OpenBSD's goals do not match the Inter9's. OpenBSD's%0acommunity is insular; it is not particularly friendly towards, nor%0ainterested in, outreach to newbies. It is unlikely that newbie%0acontributions would get integrated into upstream. It may not accept%0athe Inter9's goals of improving network equality and freedom.%0a%0aOpenBSD now receives the majority of its funding from large%0a[[https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/contributors.html|corporate contributors]].%0aAs of 2022, its top donors include Google, Meta, and%0aMicrosoft. And unfortunately, it too is heavily dependent on Linux's%0acorporate ecosystem. For example, efforts have been made to add%0a[[https://xenocara.org/Wayland_on_OpenBSD.html|wayland support]].%0a%0aMost Linux distros today suffer from the second system effect.%0aComponents such as Wayland and systemd are becoming too complex for%0aaverage users to understand and contribute to. These are not merely%0atechnical concerns: many of these software projects have vowed%0ahostility towards user freedom. Wayland is dangerous because its%0aparent organization, X.org Foundation, has called for a total boycott%0aof the Free Software Foundation. It is signatory #61 in the%0a[[https://rms-open-letter.github.io/|RMS boycott petition]]. Red Hat%0ain particular has called for a%0a[[https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-statement-about-richard-stallmans-return-free-software-foundation-board|complete boycott of the FSF]].%0aIf Wayland and systemd succeed, they will make it difficult to maintain%0aindependent UNIX systems (OpenBSD included) that are not dependent upon IBM%0aRed Hat's ecosystem.%0a%0aBesides corporate influence, political conflicts are likely to affect%0athe Linux ecosystem. The Linux kernel itself is at risk of a%0apotential fork in the kernel itself due to%0a[[https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-STMAC-Russian-Sanctions|sanctions]].%0a%0aFor these reasons, the Inter9 community needs to have its own,%0aindependent system that it can work on, specifically tailored to its%0agoal of preserving democratic control of networks. An independent%0aproject will best ensure the Inter9 can achieve its goals of user%0acontrol of the network. Because the Inter9 is independently%0adeveloped, it can rely on funding from diverse sources to avoid the%0aharmful influences of corporate control.%0a%0a[[Ircnow/Explorer|Plan 9]] provides an elegant, easy-to-learn, and highly effective%0adevelopment environment for connecting together disparate networks.%0aIts small size (10 to 100x smaller than most unix-like distributions)%0amakes it easy to understand and modify the code. By design, Plan 9 is%0aa distributed operating system that offers network transparency. Its%0aideas are a logical extension of the Unix philosophy which helped%0apropel GNU/Linux to success. Plan 9 will be used to build a new,%0afederated internet.%0a%0aA few principles will be adopted. First, all users will be welcome,%0aincluding novices. Secondly, users will be treated as co-developers.%0aEvery user will be encouraged to code, and all contributions encouraged.%0aThe Inter9 will follow the%0a[[https://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/|bazaar model of development]].%0a%0aNew code for Plan 9 can be written in both C and Lua. Lua provides a%0aminimalist, high-level language that does not suffer from heavy%0acorporate influence. It will allow rapid software development and%0aprovides a good alternative to python, javascript, rust, and go. Use%0aof Lua is encouraged.%0a%0aAt first, the method to popularize Plan 9 is to install it inside%0aexisting operating systems like Linux and BSD. This will allow users%0ato run 9 applications while still retaining their existing software.%0aThis will allow Plan 9 to immediately support all existing hardware.%0a%0aPlan 9 offers many alternatives for corporate components used by%0aLinux. For example, rio presents a much simpler and more elegant%0aalternative to Wayland. Rio's interface also presents a lower%0alearning curve than terminal user interface (TUI) applications. acme%0ais a powerful text editor that fits the Unix philosophy. It%0aeffectively replaces applications like vi and emacs that still rely on%0aobsolete teletype computing models. This makes it easier for new%0adevelopers to learn to program for Plan 9. Writing GUIs for unix-like%0awindowing toolkits is usually very complex, but rio makes it very%0asimple. Unlike Wayland, Rio offers network transparency today. It is%0aready to use with mice, trackpads, and touchscreens. Its code base is%0afar smaller. It provides a good alternative to the obsolete X%0aWindowing system.%0a
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15 diff:1692983716:1692983509:=33,36c33,36%0a%3c [[https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-statement-about-richard-stallmans-return-free-software-foundation-board|complete boycott of the FSF]].%0a%3c If Wayland and systemd succeed, they will make it difficult to maintain%0a%3c independent UNIX systems (OpenBSD included) that are not dependent upon IBM%0a%3c Red Hat's ecosystem.%0a---%0a> [[https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-statement-about-richard-stallmans-return-free-software-foundation-board|complete%0a> boycott of the FSF]]. If Wayland and systemd succeed, they will make%0a> it difficult to maintain independent UNIX systems (OpenBSD included)%0a> that are not dependent upon IBM Red Hat's ecosystem.%0a
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18 diff:1692983509:1692844130:=18,19c18,19%0a%3c [[https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/contributors.html|corporate contributors]].%0a%3c As of 2022, its top donors include Google, Meta, and%0a---%0a> [[https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/contributors.html|corporate%0a> contributors]]. As of 2022, its top donors include Google, Meta, and%0a
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21 diff:1692844130:1692844112:=64c64,65%0a%3c [[https://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/|bazaar model of development]].%0a---%0a> [[https://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/|bazaar model of%0a> development]].%0a
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27 diff:1692844088:1692841424:=3,39c3,18%0a%3c Today's Linux/BSD systems are heavily controlled by corporate%0a%3c interests. It is unlikely that these corporations will tolerate the%0a%3c Inter9's efforts to preserve user freedom on the Internet. Moreover,%0a%3c the Inter9's users will be unable to make any significant impact or%0a%3c contribution to existing projects. A new project is needed which is%0a%3c specifically chosen for the task of connecting together isolated%0a%3c networks.%0a%3c %0a%3c In general, OpenBSD's goals do not match the Inter9's. OpenBSD's%0a%3c community is insular; it is not particularly friendly towards, nor%0a%3c interested in, outreach to newbies. It is unlikely that newbie%0a%3c contributions would get integrated into upstream. It may not accept%0a%3c the Inter9's goals of improving network equality and freedom.%0a%3c %0a%3c OpenBSD now receives the majority of its funding from large%0a%3c [[https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/contributors.html|corporate%0a%3c contributors]]. As of 2022, its top donors include Google, Meta, and%0a%3c Microsoft. And unfortunately, it too is heavily dependent on Linux's%0a%3c corporate ecosystem. For example, efforts have been made to add%0a%3c [[https://xenocara.org/Wayland_on_OpenBSD.html|wayland support]].%0a%3c %0a%3c Most Linux distros today suffer from the second system effect.%0a%3c Components such as Wayland and systemd are becoming too complex for%0a%3c average users to understand and contribute to. These are not merely%0a%3c technical concerns: many of these software projects have vowed%0a%3c hostility towards user freedom. Wayland is dangerous because its%0a%3c parent organization, X.org Foundation, has called for a total boycott%0a%3c of the Free Software Foundation. It is signatory #61 in the%0a%3c [[https://rms-open-letter.github.io/|RMS boycott petition]]. Red Hat%0a%3c in particular has called for a%0a%3c [[https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-statement-about-richard-stallmans-return-free-software-foundation-board|complete%0a%3c boycott of the FSF]]. If Wayland and systemd succeed, they will make%0a%3c it difficult to maintain independent UNIX systems (OpenBSD included)%0a%3c that are not dependent upon IBM Red Hat's ecosystem.%0a%3c %0a%3c Besides corporate influence, political conflicts are likely to affect%0a%3c the Linux ecosystem. The Linux kernel itself is at risk of a%0a---%0a> Today's Linux/BSD systems are heavily controlled by corporate interests. It%0a> is unlikely that these corporations will tolerate IRCNow's efforts to preserve%0a> user freedom on the Internet. Moreover, it is unlikely that IRCNow's users%0a> can make any significant impact or contribution there. A new project is%0a> needed which is specifically chosen for the task of connecting together%0a> isolated networks.%0a> %0a> In general, OpenBSD's goals do not match IRCNow's. Its community is very insular; it is not particularly friendly towards, nor interested in, outreach to newbies. It is unlikely our code contributions would get integrated into upstream. It may not accept our goals of improving network equality and freedom.%0a> %0a> It receives the majority of its funding from large corporate [[https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/contributors.html|contributors]]. As for 2022, its top donors include Google, Meta, and Microsoft.%0a> %0a> It is heavily dependent on the linux ecosystem. For example, efforts have been made to add [[https://xenocara.org/Wayland_on_OpenBSD.html|wayland support]].%0a> %0a> Most Linux distros today suffer from the second system effect:%0a> wayland, pulseaudio, and systemd. The systems are becoming too complex for%0a> average users to understand and contribute to. Moreover, there is a risk of a%0a41,48c20,33%0a%3c [[https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-STMAC-Russian-Sanctions|sanctions]].%0a%3c %0a%3c For these reasons, the Inter9 community needs to have its own,%0a%3c independent system that it can work on, specifically tailored to its%0a%3c goal of preserving democratic control of networks. An independent%0a%3c project will best ensure the Inter9 can achieve its goals of user%0a%3c control of the network. Because the Inter9 is independently%0a%3c developed, it can rely on funding from diverse sources to avoid the%0a---%0a> [[https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-STMAC-Russian-Sanctions|political%0a> divisions]].%0a> Wayland is dangerous because its parent organization, X.org Foundation, is an enemy of the Free Software Foundation. It is signatory #61 in the [[https://rms-open-letter.github.io/|RMS boycott petition]]. Therefore, Wayland's development team will likely be hostile to our goals. If Wayland succeeds, it will make it difficult to maintain independent UNIX systems (OpenBSD included) that are not dependent upon IBM Red Hat's ecosystem. Red Hat in particular has called for a [[https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-statement-about-richard-stallmans-return-free-software-foundation-board|complete boycott of the FSF]].%0a> %0a> %0a> %0a> %0a> %0a> %0a> For these reasons, the IRCNow community needs to have its own, independent%0a> project that it can work on, specifically tailored to our issues of%0a> preserving democratic control of networks. An independent project will best%0a> assure IRCNow of being able to achieve its goals of user control of the%0a> network. This project can rely on funding from diverse sources to avoid the%0a51,90c36,82%0a%3c [[Ircnow/Explorer|Plan 9]] provides an elegant, easy-to-learn, and highly effective%0a%3c development environment for connecting together disparate networks.%0a%3c Its small size (10 to 100x smaller than most unix-like distributions)%0a%3c makes it easy to understand and modify the code. By design, Plan 9 is%0a%3c a distributed operating system that offers network transparency. Its%0a%3c ideas are a logical extension of the Unix philosophy which helped%0a%3c propel GNU/Linux to success. Plan 9 will be used to build a new,%0a%3c federated internet.%0a%3c %0a%3c A few principles will be adopted. First, all users will be welcome,%0a%3c including novices. Secondly, users will be treated as co-developers.%0a%3c Every user will be encouraged to code, and all contributions encouraged.%0a%3c The Inter9 will follow the%0a%3c [[https://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/|bazaar model of%0a%3c development]].%0a%3c %0a%3c New code for Plan 9 can be written in both C and Lua. Lua provides a%0a%3c minimalist, high-level language that does not suffer from heavy%0a%3c corporate influence. It will allow rapid software development and%0a%3c provides a good alternative to python, javascript, rust, and go. Use%0a%3c of Lua is encouraged.%0a%3c %0a%3c At first, the method to popularize Plan 9 is to install it inside%0a%3c existing operating systems like Linux and BSD. This will allow users%0a%3c to run 9 applications while still retaining their existing software.%0a%3c This will allow Plan 9 to immediately support all existing hardware.%0a%3c %0a%3c Plan 9 offers many alternatives for corporate components used by%0a%3c Linux. For example, rio presents a much simpler and more elegant%0a%3c alternative to Wayland. Rio's interface also presents a lower%0a%3c learning curve than terminal user interface (TUI) applications. acme%0a%3c is a powerful text editor that fits the Unix philosophy. It%0a%3c effectively replaces applications like vi and emacs that still rely on%0a%3c obsolete teletype computing models. This makes it easier for new%0a%3c developers to learn to program for Plan 9. Writing GUIs for unix-like%0a%3c windowing toolkits is usually very complex, but rio makes it very%0a%3c simple. Unlike Wayland, Rio offers network transparency today. It is%0a%3c ready to use with mice, trackpads, and touchscreens. Its code base is%0a%3c far smaller. It provides a good alternative to the obsolete X%0a%3c Windowing system.%0a---%0a> A minimalist, highly efficient development environment for connecting%0a> together unix networks%0a> %0a> New code can be written in lua, which is a non-corporate controlled, high-level language that provides a good alternative to python, javascript, rust, and go.%0a> Plan 9 represents a new system design that gives us a powerful tool our community can use to connect splintered networks.%0a> Plan 9 can be used to build a new, decentralized internet with federation%0a> %0a> The solution for popularizing plan 9 is not to install it on bare metal but to run it inside existing operating systems (especially unix) like inferno%0a> %0a> Hardware support can be added later but at first it can be run inside unix to immediately support all hardware%0a> %0a> %0a> A few principles will be adopted. First, all users will be welcome, including novices. Secondly, users will be treated as co-developers. Everyone will be encouraged to code, and where it does not harm system integrity and stability, contributions will be welcome.%0a> %0a> There may be a market for a p9 port that can provide rio to unix, as an alternative to Wayland (which is corporate controlled) and X11 (which is no longer maintained).%0a> Moreover, the interface has a much lower learning curve than TUI applications like vi and emacs. It will make it easier for new developers to learn, since the era of teletype/ncurses is over. Writing GUIs for existing windowing toolkits is very complex, but rio makes it very simple to write new GUIs that are powerful and follow the UNIX philosophy.%0a> %0a> https://xenocara.org/Wayland_on_OpenBSD.html%0a> %0a> Rio apps I think are written just by reading and writing to files%0a> Unlike Wayland, Rio offers network transparency today.%0a> It is ready to use with mice, trackpads, and touchscreens.%0a> The windowing system has a far smaller code base.%0a> %0a> The learning curve for rio much much smaller than X11, documentation is far more concise and the coding applications is much simpler.%0a> %0a> A new software development community is needed that provides full transparency when it comes to donations, where the funding sources can be decided by the users.%0a> %0a> In this new community, all users are invited to participate and contribute to its development. It deliberately chooses the bazaar development model to rapidly develop software.%0a> %0a> %0a> p9p already comes with acme and a windowing theme that resembles rio.%0a> %0a> Plan 9 has an elegant design with a very simplistic implementation that can be improved.%0a> %0a> X11 will be obsolete%0a> Rio was designed by the UNIX team%0a> %0a> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Acme.png%0a> Acme is a powerful text editor, and writing new applications in rio is really easy%0a> If we keep p9p and work to add networking to it, we would not need to rewrite rc and acme%0a> %0a> New code can be a hybrid of C and lua for faster development for p9p%0a> Rio is a viable end-user interface replacement for wayland for advanced users.%0a> %0a> The internet itself is suffering from the second system effect IMO, tcp/2 (QUIC), http/3, maybe even ipv6%0a> %0a
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30 diff:1692841424:1692723439:=3,38c3,13%0a%3c Today's Linux/BSD systems are heavily controlled by corporate interests. It%0a%3c is unlikely that these corporations will tolerate IRCNow's efforts to preserve%0a%3c user freedom on the Internet. Moreover, it is unlikely that IRCNow's users%0a%3c can make any significant impact or contribution there. A new project is%0a%3c needed which is specifically chosen for the task of connecting together%0a%3c isolated networks.%0a%3c %0a%3c In general, OpenBSD's goals do not match IRCNow's. Its community is very insular; it is not particularly friendly towards, nor interested in, outreach to newbies. It is unlikely our code contributions would get integrated into upstream. It may not accept our goals of improving network equality and freedom.%0a%3c %0a%3c It receives the majority of its funding from large corporate [[https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/contributors.html|contributors]]. As for 2022, its top donors include Google, Meta, and Microsoft.%0a%3c %0a%3c It is heavily dependent on the linux ecosystem. For example, efforts have been made to add [[https://xenocara.org/Wayland_on_OpenBSD.html|wayland support]].%0a%3c %0a%3c Most Linux distros today suffer from the second system effect:%0a%3c wayland, pulseaudio, and systemd. The systems are becoming too complex for%0a%3c average users to understand and contribute to. Moreover, there is a risk of a%0a%3c potential fork in the kernel itself due to%0a%3c [[https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-STMAC-Russian-Sanctions|political%0a%3c divisions]].%0a%3c Wayland is dangerous because its parent organization, X.org Foundation, is an enemy of the Free Software Foundation. It is signatory #61 in the [[https://rms-open-letter.github.io/|RMS boycott petition]]. Therefore, Wayland's development team will likely be hostile to our goals. If Wayland succeeds, it will make it difficult to maintain independent UNIX systems (OpenBSD included) that are not dependent upon IBM Red Hat's ecosystem. Red Hat in particular has called for a [[https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-statement-about-richard-stallmans-return-free-software-foundation-board|complete boycott of the FSF]].%0a%3c %0a%3c %0a%3c %0a%3c %0a%3c %0a%3c %0a%3c For these reasons, the IRCNow community needs to have its own, independent%0a%3c project that it can work on, specifically tailored to our issues of%0a%3c preserving democratic control of networks. An independent project will best%0a%3c assure IRCNow of being able to achieve its goals of user control of the%0a%3c network. This project can rely on funding from diverse sources to avoid the%0a%3c harmful influences of corporate control.%0a%3c %0a%3c A minimalist, highly efficient development environment for connecting%0a%3c together unix networks%0a%3c %0a---%0a> [@%0a> https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/contributors.html%0a> Top donors are google, facebook, and microsoft%0a> %0a> It is better to have an independent project for the IRCNow community that relies on funding from diverse sources%0a> https://xenocara.org/Wayland_on_OpenBSD.html%0a> A minimalist, highly efficient development environment for connecting together unix networks%0a> If wayland succeeds, it will make it difficult to maintain independent distros (including OpenBSD) that are not dependent upon IBM Red Hat's ecosystem.%0a> %0a> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-statement-about-richard-stallmans-return-free-software-foundation-board%0a> %0a40c15,19%0a%3c Plan 9 represents a new system design that gives us a powerful tool our community can use to connect splintered networks.%0a---%0a> %0a> https://rms-open-letter.github.io/%0a> Signatory #61: X.org Foundation%0a> %0a> X.org Foundation controls Wayland%0a47c26,33%0a%3c %0a---%0a> linux is suffering from the second system effect: wayland, pulseaudio, systemd, and a potential fork in its kernel%0a> The internet itself is suffering from the second system effect IMO, tcp/2 (QUIC), http/3, maybe even ipv6%0a> %0a> %0a> The OpenBSD community is an insular community, not particularly interested in outreach to newbies. Its goals do not match IRCNow's goals of providing equality and internet freedom to users.%0a> %0a> On the other hand, Linux is completely controlled by corporate interests and it is unlikely our community can make any significant impact or contribution there. Plan 9 represents a new system design that gives us a powerful tool our community can use to connect splintered networks.%0a> %0a80,82c66%0a%3c %0a%3c The internet itself is suffering from the second system effect IMO, tcp/2 (QUIC), http/3, maybe even ipv6%0a%3c %0a---%0a> @]%0a
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36 diff:1692723422:1692723422:=1,66d0%0a%3c (:title Why Plan 9:)%0a%3c %0a%3c [@%0a%3c https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/contributors.html%0a%3c Top donors are google, facebook, and microsoft%0a%3c %0a%3c It is better to have an independent project for the IRCNow community that relies on funding from diverse sources%0a%3c https://xenocara.org/Wayland_on_OpenBSD.html%0a%3c A minimalist, highly efficient development environment for connecting together unix networks%0a%3c If wayland succeeds, it will make it difficult to maintain independent distros (including OpenBSD) that are not dependent upon IBM Red Hat's ecosystem.%0a%3c %0a%3c https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-statement-about-richard-stallmans-return-free-software-foundation-board%0a%3c %0a%3c New code can be written in lua, which is a non-corporate controlled, high-level language that provides a good alternative to python, javascript, rust, and go.%0a%3c %0a%3c https://rms-open-letter.github.io/%0a%3c Signatory #61: X.org Foundation%0a%3c %0a%3c X.org Foundation controls Wayland%0a%3c Plan 9 can be used to build a new, decentralized internet with federation%0a%3c %0a%3c The solution for popularizing plan 9 is not to install it on bare metal but to run it inside existing operating systems (especially unix) like inferno%0a%3c %0a%3c Hardware support can be added later but at first it can be run inside unix to immediately support all hardware%0a%3c %0a%3c linux is suffering from the second system effect: wayland, pulseaudio, systemd, and a potential fork in its kernel%0a%3c The internet itself is suffering from the second system effect IMO, tcp/2 (QUIC), http/3, maybe even ipv6%0a%3c %0a%3c %0a%3c The OpenBSD community is an insular community, not particularly interested in outreach to newbies. Its goals do not match IRCNow's goals of providing equality and internet freedom to users.%0a%3c %0a%3c On the other hand, Linux is completely controlled by corporate interests and it is unlikely our community can make any significant impact or contribution there. Plan 9 represents a new system design that gives us a powerful tool our community can use to connect splintered networks.%0a%3c %0a%3c A few principles will be adopted. First, all users will be welcome, including novices. Secondly, users will be treated as co-developers. Everyone will be encouraged to code, and where it does not harm system integrity and stability, contributions will be welcome.%0a%3c %0a%3c There may be a market for a p9 port that can provide rio to unix, as an alternative to Wayland (which is corporate controlled) and X11 (which is no longer maintained).%0a%3c Moreover, the interface has a much lower learning curve than TUI applications like vi and emacs. It will make it easier for new developers to learn, since the era of teletype/ncurses is over. Writing GUIs for existing windowing toolkits is very complex, but rio makes it very simple to write new GUIs that are powerful and follow the UNIX philosophy.%0a%3c %0a%3c https://xenocara.org/Wayland_on_OpenBSD.html%0a%3c %0a%3c Rio apps I think are written just by reading and writing to files%0a%3c Unlike Wayland, Rio offers network transparency today.%0a%3c It is ready to use with mice, trackpads, and touchscreens.%0a%3c The windowing system has a far smaller code base.%0a%3c %0a%3c The learning curve for rio much much smaller than X11, documentation is far more concise and the coding applications is much simpler.%0a%3c %0a%3c A new software development community is needed that provides full transparency when it comes to donations, where the funding sources can be decided by the users.%0a%3c %0a%3c In this new community, all users are invited to participate and contribute to its development. It deliberately chooses the bazaar development model to rapidly develop software.%0a%3c %0a%3c %0a%3c p9p already comes with acme and a windowing theme that resembles rio.%0a%3c %0a%3c Plan 9 has an elegant design with a very simplistic implementation that can be improved.%0a%3c %0a%3c X11 will be obsolete%0a%3c Rio was designed by the UNIX team%0a%3c %0a%3c https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Acme.png%0a%3c Acme is a powerful text editor, and writing new applications in rio is really easy%0a%3c If we keep p9p and work to add networking to it, we would not need to rewrite rc and acme%0a%3c %0a%3c New code can be a hybrid of C and lua for faster development for p9p%0a%3c Rio is a viable end-user interface replacement for wayland for advanced users.%0a%3c @]%0a
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